Comments on: Midilab Offers FREE JC-303 Bass Synth VST Plugin https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/ Freeware for music producers! Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:14:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jonas https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-377528 Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:14:34 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-377528 Reason 12 not letting to use.

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By: Robin https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-377095 Fri, 19 Jan 2024 00:02:17 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-377095 In reply to MRG.

Thanks for that great explanation. I also still believed it had an 18dB/oct filter, even though I usually got closest results simply using some 24dB filter. You’re making me curious about the transformed sawtooth now too. I do remember seeing wavetables with 303 waves that looked like malformed squares/saws, maybe analyzing clean original 303 samples is the best way to go at emulating first. It’s also good to realize that the inability to emulate the 303 is no real indication of a synth’s quality, as at some point I did believe.

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By: MRG https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-377024 Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:32:12 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-377024 In reply to Robin.

In my view, it’s not that it’s hard, it’s that for years nobody did the work. Or used bad knowledge.
A long rumour was that the filter was 3-pole (18 dB/oct) but that’s a bad interpretation of the circuitry.
Another ‘problem’ is that the square oscillator is in fact the sawtooth being transformed by magic (i forgot how exactly, so I’ll pretend it’s magic… ^_^).
The glide/slide is another issue, because being a sequencer-based instrument the way it behaves cannot be accurately transposed into a pure MIDI instrument. That’s the best emulations (hard- or soft-ware) take care into reproducing the sequancer (sometimes to a fault, the insane way to enter the notes is optional…)
The accent being another quirk, because it affects the VCA in a very particular manner.
The TB-303 is a very bad, cheap design, and that’s why it’s harder than a clean analogue synth using quality components and good design. That’s both what makes it wonderful, but a pain to re-create.
Imperfections, chaos, are indeed harder to simulate simple predictable things. This goes for everything, audio, 3D CGI, AI, etc…

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By: Brenny C https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-376208 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 14:33:23 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-376208 In reply to Tim.

Unlike Audio Realism ABL 3 ($95) and d16 Phoscyon 2 ($119) the Midilab JC-303 costs $0. If you’re unsatisfied with it, why not just delete the synth from your VST folder and move along?

Life’s too short to get hung up on whether or not a free plugin sounds as good as hundred dollar commercial software.

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By: CoopMusic247 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-376118 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 01:22:20 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-376118 In reply to Robin.

Have you tried the new Arturia 303?

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By: ASJ https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-376082 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 19:39:42 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-376082 A faithful emulation? I don’t know, and I don’t care really. I don’t understand people arguing this is not like hardware 303, it doesn’t matter. It’s free after all, you’re not being ripped off or something. After spendindg some time with it, I can say it is good indeed for acid. WIth a proper sequence, distortion and then delay it sounds very credible and iconic.

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By: Brenny C https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-376080 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 19:20:26 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-376080 ]]> Awesome! The filter could be improved for sure but I’m liking this plug a lot. 😎

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By: Robin https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-376030 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 12:03:52 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-376030 I never understood why the 303 sound is so hard to emulate. I tried it with many synths using different filters, but it never really works. For a while I even used it as a test for synths (and distortion plugins). Many failed (all if you’re remotely a purist). Even Icarus which lists two specific 303 filter emulations, or Synthmaster that has “Acid” mode on some filters sound nothing like it. The free Odin 2 synth came close, especially its distortion/saturation. ANA wasn’t bad either, I remember. Yet none really nailed it (not counting specialized synths like Phoscyon, of course). There is something truly magical about the filters used in the 303.

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By: annie w https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-375981 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 04:15:06 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-375981 Mac M2 Max here. I can’t get this plugin to work!

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By: MRG https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-375966 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:18:58 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-375966 In reply to Phillipe.

A common Mac issue with anything freeware/opensource stuff from tiny devs who refuse to pay the fee to Apple to sign the binaries. The solution is to open a Terminal and:

sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine

You’ll then be asked for your admin password. Should work. Should. What do I know, The only MacIntosh I ever had was a Spectre GCR emulator for the Atari ST… :D

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By: LITTLE LARRY https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-375919 Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:55:39 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-375919 In reply to Adam Zero.

DITTO

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By: Numanoid https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/01/11/midilab-jc-303/comment-page-1/#comment-375900 Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:17:11 +0000 https://bedroomproducersblog.com/?p=50765#comment-375900 In reply to Phillipe.

That is interesting, I thought Apple Mac platform was immune to viruses and malicious software ?

I get the same message on Windows 10, but I just chose to ignore it, and plugs install fine.

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